Psychic reading for Barry Fagin, 9-11-04

My name is Barry Fagin. I'm a computer science professor, a member of the Rocky Mountain Skeptics and a columnist for the Colorado Springs Gazette. Click here for more info.

Below are recordings and a transcript of a psychic reading for me at the Colorado Springs Metaphysical Fair on September 11th, 2004. To block cold reading techniques, I attempted to remain as uncommunicative as possible while still being polite. I invite readers to decide for themselves whether or not supernatural forces are at work.

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OK a couple of things I see going on, um, actually they’re the same thing but they, they manifest as two different things: There’s a lot of change coming up in your life. Um, I see career change and I see, like, changes within the family, um, whatever that family structure looks to be to you. I see people leaving, I see people coming in. Leaving, not in terms of this dying, but leaving, going out of your life and more people coming in.

I’m also seeing that there is like right now where you’re at I’m seeing a kind of pressure pushing, it’s pushing you up. But the picture I get is that you’re hitting your head, your head is up against um, you can’t see what it is 'cause your head’s up against it but I can see it, and it’s actually the dividing line between the current stage you’re in and the one you’re moving into. So you’re that close to crossing over that line to being in the next stage which is what is manifesting.

And so for you I’m seeing that head pushing up against it and it feels like something is pushing you up, and this is like a lot of pressure on your head, are you aware of that at all physically, are you feeling like you have a heavy head or a weight on your head or headaches recently or …

No? You might not be aware of it at all, that’s just the picture I get is that pushing you up, um, and the reason I see the pushing is that you are so close to just crossing over that line. But I see some resistance there. Most of the resistance is coming because it’s an unknown. There’s, there's a desire to keep that which is familiar. But I see you changing a lot of what’s familiar over the next ten years, um and really particularly most of it in the next two to three years. That which was was familiar no longer serves you in present time and a lot of new stuff comes in that really fits for you in present time, is what I’m seeing.

Okay did you have a specific question or is there something in particular you would like me to look at?

OK so well we’ll just pick one, OK? Well what I’ll do is look and then what’ll come up is the one that’s most rel – what I do is look at a past life, tell you the details or some things about it, like who you were, the time period, what, what you were doing and then most importantly what I do is relate it to present time, like why that past life is relevant for you. So let me look at that.

First I want to say that you don’t, you have not always incarned on this plane. You incarned on this plane for a long time and then you stopped, and there’s, um, quite a big break where you incarned elsewhere in other realms, and then you started incarning in this lifetime again, and this is probably looks to be your third, yes your third lifetime reincarning here, um since that break where you incarned elsewhere.

So now we’re going to look at one of those past lives, and we’re going to look at one of the last, uh, it’s, it's the two before this one.

OK. This is like watching a western movie, it’s a hoot! There’s the stagecoach and you’re on the stagecoach and the horses are, are running really fast and there’s, the wheels are turning and the stagecoach master’s crackin’ the whip and there’s people in the stagecoach and there’s, I think, I think they’re robbers although I’m not sure at this point. But there’s men on horseback coming up very fast chasing the stagecoach. And I see inside the stagecoach a man, a woman, and a male child to be about 12 years old.

In this particular lifetime, OK, you were bred in a very, you were born into a very wealthy family, and the way that you were um for that time period. And the way that you were raised was with a lot of, um, classism. There was a big separation between your family and the rest of the community. You lived in the outskirts and you were very sheltered from having relationships with other schoolchildren. In fact I see that you were mostly tutored privately. Um, your parents felt that you going to school with the children who were of a lesser class would have a negative impact on you.

You’re an extremely intelligent child, very bright. Um, in terms of book learning you were able to take in a great deal, much more so than your young age. And this is another reason that you were tutored, because the school system was too slow for you.

The other thing I see about you here in this lifetime is there that, there is that 10-12 year old kind of boyish mischief in there, and um little trickster, and like to play tricks. However your parents were extremely stern, and this was not, this was not at all tolerated. So you did it in secrecy and you did a good job, cause you did it a lot and you didn’t get caught, but once and, and you never got caught again, but it continued. And it’s really a good thing because this is where you found your humor. This is where you found lightness in your life.

This is a very, um, oppressive kind of lifestyle for a young boy. Because you were so sheltered, and it was all about the intellect. There was not a lot, the only type of spiritual or religious input was one of the punishing, like if you’re not, if you don’t do this God’s going to punish you type religion. So that was a huge influence in your life then and it created a lot of fear actually.

I see there was a point where you thought you would actually die and go to hell because of these little trickster things you did. They never really hurt anybody, they were really the fun kind of practical jokes, not harmful, but because there was so much influence about being bad, and that God will punish you that you started to believe that you were going to die very young and go to hell as a result of doing these little tricks. And also because you laughed at them, you had humor about them. And that was not, really, that was very much frowned upon by your father. And grandfather, your grandfather as well.

So I do see you growing up and moving away and creating your own life in that lifetime and you remained wealthy, I see you being 28 years old. I see you having a relationship …with a woman … and I see children … three … and you do pass fairly young in that lifetime, about 45 years old. Um, three children and a wife and a very successful business, had to do with I see a lot of numbers and money, like accounting, bookkeeping.

Oh by the way I don’t know what the stagecoach thing was about, except that you thought, you were sitting there very serious and you looked really scared but inside

you were just having a ball. It was like “This is the most exciting thing that has every happened in my entire life!” But you dare not let your Dad see that. So it was that you really hid it well.

So in this lifetime I see two big influences. One is the expression of emotion outwardly, that you tend to feel one thing but present another, and that there’s, there’s an uncomfortableness with really letting people know and see through your expression, and (both verball and facial) how you really feel. Um, and this is something that you came, you brought with you from that lifetime, so you could work that energy to really have, there’s a desire on your part, to be able to be in a stagecoach and feel excited and look and act excited and be validated for that, for having joy, for having whatever, and not being suppressed about it, and have that oppression.

So it seems like a small thing in a way, but it’s not, it’s very big. For someone who had a lifetime (and I see you had several, I see a military lifetime, more of that suppression and oppression) about, um, where you actually allow yourself to express outwardly what you feel inside. And another lifetime where a grandfather raised you. And it was you know there’s many times where you were in situations where you were taught to oppress and suppress.

So in this lifetime it’s about being able to feel something, express it, and really have it, and be comfortable with that. And not only comfortable but have other people, like I see you kind of studying how people react when you do that. And it’s because it serves as a validation for you, I think, that when you are authentic in your expression, it doesn’t really matter if you’re angry, happy, sad, excited, tearful, whatever. What matters is that you’re genuine, and that’s the energy you’re working, that’s the energy that’s what you’re learning about.

And that’s part of it. The other part had to do, I want to look a little bit deeper at the spiritual and religious aspect because when I was looking at that about being fearful that you’re going to die and go to hell because you did these bad things. [pause] I see here many lifetimes of religious programming like that. One in which you were a monk, and

another one in which you were, um, not the Pope but you were higher than a priest. You were, I don’t know if it’s a bishop or archbishop but you were very high in the church, but not the Pope. Um, I’m getting archbishop.

A lot, in that lifetime there is so much religious programming from that lifetime, and in fact in that lifetime it looks like that is one of the lifetimes in which you began to, even as archbishop in the Catholic church that you began to question the religious programming. That certain things would happen with your parishioners and when you would experience a shared experience with them you would be saying what you were programmed to say, but inside you started thinking and feeling that this did not match.

That, especially about the punishing (oh I see how this ties in to when you were a boy too). In other words you’re saying something to them that’s religious programming that you supposedly believe as archbishop of the Catholic church, but as a person you started to realize and question that what is coming out of your mouth isn’t what you really believe. Like maybe when you wanted to console and validate instead you were brimstone and fire kind of stuff.

So this lifetime also works into this lifetime, and I see you really questioning a lot about your spirituality. Um, not so much religion per se, but religion in the aspect of the overall how it fits into you spirituality. And I see like religion being this whole ball, and everything in there’s religion, and spirituality is all around it, and your interest is in what’s out here, although you’re looking into that ball, at how all of this religious stuff does connect to the spirituality.

So there is that wanting again of an integration of religion and spirituality. And also a real separation of what is your truth and what is what you thought was your truth but turns out is actually religious programming, as a result of past lives or present lifetime, parents, um, culture, society, type.

And I see so many question marks out here it’s almost like looking like a cartoon, in terms of, um energy coming in, that there’s so many questions and there’s so many answers that you can’t possibly get them all at once. But, I also see coming in to play that intelligence you had in that lifetime as that 10-year-old boy, whereas now there’s the desire, I see that intelligence and I see the desire to have it balanced with the spiritual, and how you use that intelligence to balance with the spiritual world, so that it feels complete instead of like this or like this or even like this.

It looks to me, what I’m seeing is that you’ve already started that process, just by quest—by virtue of questioning it, and things like being here, just being willing, you said this is your first psychic reading, being willing to experience different aspects of spirituality, and talking to people, and being in this environment, and … and not owning everything everybody says. I don’t see you doing this, so what I’m really doing is validating that. Do what you do, take it and look at it for yourself, and if it’s truth it becomes your truth and if it’s not it remains someone else’s truth. It doesn’t invalidate it, it doesn’t make it wrong or right. There are as you know there are many truths, there are many paths to the same goal.

And I saw somebody with a t-shirt that said something, now I can’t remember what it was, it was great though, I wish I remembered it. Something about “There’s too much … spirituality”, or too much something “for it all to fit into one religion”. But it was a very positive thing. And so different paths, just exploring, having an openness, really I’m seeing not being closed to anything [three minute timer beeps], and being open enough to at least look at it, and then decide is that my truth or not my truth?

If it’s not my truth, you put it aside for somebody else’s truth. If it is your truth, then you can look at it deeper and own it for yourself, and that’s how you find what your truth is. Um, being open, being willing, being experimental, and finding like-minded people that you can have discussions with who are going through the same process or who have, some who are maybe a step further on their path, some who are on a step behind where you’re at and, and really create that kind of support and openness.

This also serves I see to help with that, that other, um, energy you want to work where what you feel matches what you express. That having those kinds of good discussions with like-minded people really supports you in, in being who you really are, and who sometimes you think you need to be, to be OK. And that’s, that’s really I don’t see much of that in this lifetime that’s really a past life from back, that past life is very strong. It’s also only not your last past life but the one before that so it’s not been that long ago, and that’s the energy you’re bringing in to work.

Um, no I think you’ve been, uh, very helpful. You’ve given me a lot to think about, I think, um, I’m quite good.

The other thing I get is in terms of not doing something out there but in the self, and it’s validating yourself for who you are, validating yourself for being willing, and really recognizing the value that you have as a being here on this planet.

I really see you growing a lot in the next 2-5 years, um, and that, that barrier when you cross over, there’s, there’s a lot of shifts. I mean, I can’t begin to tell you, and it, it’s both exciting and there’s, there’s physical changes in the body that happen as a result of this vibrational shift, and it’s a lot of vibrational changes. There are many people going through this in the next 5-7 years.

Um, about that I will just say to you that you’ll learn more about it … and the more you learn about it the more comfortable you’ll be and the more you’ll really come to understand what’s going on and be able accepting of it.